benefits away from people who actually need it. but he is going to create good jobs that give people a reason to get off the welfare bus they have been riding for far too long." "my parents worked their whole lives, took personal responsibility for their situations and are not victims who feel entitled. they are typical american seniors who collect social security, use medicare and have pensions so small they are below the tax threshold. don't make them sound like cheaters." thank you for joining me. "cnn newsroom" continued with ashleigh banfield. >> it's 11:00 in the east and 8:00 on the west coast. let's start. and we begin with politics. controversial politics, controversial comments. and they come from governor mitt romney. they were said at a private fund-raiser with supporters back in may. they were videotaped, and that tape was obtained by "mother

jones" magazine. and now they've been released. the timing is bad for a campaign under the microscope, 50 days or so next to the election. first let's hear a clip of governor romney talking about a bloc of voters who he says are already in obama's column. take a listen. >> there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent on government, who believe that they are victims, who believe government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to health care, to food, to housing. >> so that isust the beginning of the comments that have now been released. governor romney also talked about how he could potentially capture the latino vote or what it would take to do so. and he also talked about bleak prospects for middle east peace. but before we get to that, let's start with cnn political editor paul steinhauser who joins me to break this down. listen, has this blown up, paul, beyond something that the governor can control at this

point? >> reporter: it has definitely blown up since yesterday afternoon yesterday, ashleigh. whether it's something the governor can recover from, it's too early to say. we don't have any polls yet. this is brand new. but it's definitely something that damages him, it seems to me. this comes after a tough week. last week with the comments from the governor on the crisis in the middle east and embassy attacks and into the politico story that hit over the weekend, and now this. and it seems to me, ashleigh, that it feeds to the democratic story line, the democratic and obama story line that mitt romney may try to portray romney as somebody beholden to the wealthy and out of touch with average americans. and this sound kind of plays that. mitt romney last night was in california at a fund-raiser, and he had an impromptu news conference. the campaign announcing it 15 minutes before it happened. here's some of what he said, ashleigh. >> it's a message which i'm going to carry and continue to carry, which is, look. the president's approach is attractive to people who are not not paying taxes because,

frankly, my discussion about lowering taxes isn't as attracted to them, and therefore i'm not likely to draw them into my campaign as effectively as those who are in the middle. this is really a discussion about the political process of winning the election and, of course, i want to help all americans, all americans have a bright and prosperous future. and i'm convinced that the president's approach has not done that and will not do that. >> reporter: you know, it's interesting when you look at that 47% or i believe the actual number is 46.4%, very close. some of those people include retirees, low-income people, also some people in the military as well. and some of these people may actually be romney's supporters. also, ashleigh, when you factor in those who pay not the income tax but a federal payroll tax, the number of people who don't pay taxes goes much, much lower, down to 18%. one more thing i want to say, there are some conservative bloggers now who are applauding what romney said and saying he should double down on these comments. so this is going to be a big talker for many days to come, ashleigh. >> and doubling down may have been exactly what happened.

that's a late-night news conference. whether it's 7:00 on the west coast, it's 10:00 on the east coast and like you said, hastily converged. let me ask you about the secondary part of this, and that was the comments about if he were latino, things might end up diffent in this election. let me play for you that comment. we'll talk on the other side, paul. >> my dad, you probably know, was the governor of michigan and was the head of a car company. but he was born in mexico. and, had he been born of mexican parents, i'd have a better shot at winning this. i mean, i say that jokingly, but it would be helpful to be latino. >> paul, it may have been said jokingly, but he is in california and specifically for an event with the latino community. so will this be seen as fact, or will this be seen as offensive? >> reporter: it may be seen as offensive. and as you mentioned, yes, yesterday mitt romney addressed the u.s. hispanic chamber of comments. we carried some of those

comments live on cnn. he also did an interview with telemundo. and tomorrow he sits down with univision. the latino vote's so important and growing with every election. president obama then senator obama did very well and won two-thirds of that vote in the last election. and polls indicate he has a very large advantage. the timing here obviously not very good for mitt romney as he seemed to be making another outreach to latino voters. as for the family history, remember, you know, mitt romney's father and his parents going to mexico to escape persecution from mormons at that time because -- and that is part of the story line, a part of mitt romney's history. >> paul, just quickly, the comment that was made about mideast ace, he said we kucked the ball down the field and hoped something somehow will resolve it. is that damaging? >> it may help with some jewish-americans who feel that way, but the comments could be also seen as something that maybe mitt romney doesn't feel the two-state solution is

plausible. his campaign standing by the comments saying this is something romney has said before. if the palestinians don't want to engage, then it would be tough, they say, for the peace process to work. stay tuned, ashleigh. >> paul steinhauser for us on the story. coming ujust a little later on, paul mentioned it, that 46%, 47%, find out who they are exactly. who they are. are you part of that? and does that group of people really not pay taxes? we're going to break those numbers down for you. now, on the surface, some of those comments from romney do seem damaging. in the end, that is for you, the voter, to decide. it is up to you to look at those comments and assess them, to get a little more insight on this, joining me now is margaret hoover who is a cnn political contributor who served in the george w. bush white house. her book is called "american individualism." and also with me, democratic strategist bernard whitman. i'm going to get to both of you in just a moment. i want to play a little more of those comments made by romney at that private fund-raiser. this was surreptitiously

recorded specifically about the 47% group. have a listen. >> my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> all right, margaret hoover, i want to start with you. my job is not to be concerned about w that group. sounds reminiscent of something he said in february to soledad o'brien. i'm not concerned about poor people he said he wasn't concerned that he thought he would fix anything wrong with the social safety net, but this has got to be troublesome. how troublesome is it? he did host a very late-night news conference. >> right. well, it's troublesome in that it's an inartful tic he has, where he says i don't have to worry about that and refocus on what he is going to focus on. i went back and watched that clip. again, as you said, surreptitious video at the end of the day, closed door, the guard is down. he's probably had ten events that day already.

and he's gotten a lot of economic briefings and campaign briefings. it's easy to confuse numbers. you can almost imagine that he had a campaign strategy briefing which is a play-to-the-base strategy. democrats and republicans are going for their 45% or so democratic turnout base, and then they're fighting over that little bit in the video. it sounds like he conflated that with economic reform policies which frankly every economic reform policy deals with the fact that roughly 47% of americans don't pay federal income taxes. and the question is, should everyone have a little bit more skin in the game if we're all benefiting from federal services that we're paying into? infrastructure, roads and highways, pell grants, all of the things that have us pay into, should more of us get a little skin in the game? that's the question here. >> some of the people you're talking about who perhaps should have more skin in the game end up being seniors as well. a lot of that 47%, older voters, seniors, who typically vote republican. so bernard, my question for you is, could that potentially

alienate people who are already in his base? as margaret said, that may have been conflating some people. we have a gallup poll out that shows us that 52% of seniors favor mitt romney over 43% who favor obama. was that -- could that be damaging, and would he have to do a lot of damage control to try to reel that back in? >> i think it's extremely damaging. and i'd have to disagree with my friend margaret hoover. it is an outrageous admission of the disdain that romney has for a huge swath of the american people. and in fact the statement was not only offensive, it was factually incorrect as you point out. half those people that don't pay tax don't pay tax because they don't earn enough. but a quarter don't pay tax because they're seniors. and it really, i think, underscores the fact that mitt romney wants to focus his economic policies on creating opportunity for those who already have opportunity, doesn't really feel compelled to offer a social safety net and doesn't really believe in lifting people up that might be a little bit of assistance but who ultimately want to rely on themselves to get ahead.

i mean, if you look at his immigration policy, he is not in favor of the dream act. these are people who are here and want to go to college or serve in the military. he's doing terribly among latinos. his vote among latinos is 68-26. behind obama he's got a 53-point deficit among hispanic women. so the very people that need a little bit of assistance but are more than willing to stand up on their own two feet, if given a fair shot, are the very people that he is offending by those outrageous comments. >> so margaret, i see you nodding. and clearly, look, these comments will be seized upon by democrats and by those who create ads. and they will be used. can the governor somehow get the message you have brought to this program and try to clarify what he meant if that is, in fact, what he meant and try to break through this noise? >> certainly -- i mean, i think this will -- has the potential to stick with him as much as the inartful comment that president

obama made at a fund-raiser four years ago, made about the people in the midwest who have lost their jobs clinging to their guns and religion has stuck with them. this may be a question in the first debate. and i think the answer will rest with whether mitt romney is able to answer this question satisfactorily. i think the fundamental question between the point bernard made and the point i made is that bernard suggested that the republicans don't want any social safety net. and certainly that has been a hit against conservative movements since its founding. but i don't think conservatives are arguing against a social safety net anymore. they're arguing for saving and reforming the net so that a future generation can benefit from it. and that's actually the crux of the issue when you get to how are you going to continue to have these federal programs and have people who aren't paying taxes, how are we going to reform the system so that it's solvent into the future? >> i'll have to leave it there, only for time's sake. it remains to be seen whether this ends up being a dukakis issue or 52 more days of the

news cycle. margaret and bernard, thanks. do appreciate it. mitt romney has no public campaign events by the way scheduled. instead he's going to go to more fund-raisers. and he'll be in salt lake city as well as dallas. old stomping ground for me. president obama is on the fund-raising circuit as well today. he's supposed to be in new york city a little bit later on, a fund-raiser being hosted by beyonce. then he has an appearance on "late night with david letterman." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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mitt romney's comments that came out are making a lot of headlines. 47% of us that don't pay taxes. christine romans is here with the number 46% to show us exactly what these numbers mean and who among us they are. >> he says he's talking about the 46.4% of americans who do not pay federal income tax. that's what it looks like on that pie. who are those people? working poor. elderly. there are actually a few thousand millionaire households in those numbers. but mostly it's the working poor, elderly and people who frankly don't make enough money to pay income taxes. don't forget, we have a complicated tax code that has all of these benefits. bush-era tax cuts for everyone which means some people actually get a check at the end of the

year because they don't make enough money or they have so many tax breaks that they have a negative tax break. >> i remember those days in my 20s. let's move on. you may not be paying income tax, but that doesn't mean you're not paying taxes. >> when you look at people paying payroll taxes, most of the people -- the majority of the people whoare not paying income taxes are paying payroll taxes. so let's talk about the arena here. 18% of people, only 18% of households pay no federal income tax and no payroll tax. remember the payroll taxes come right out of your paycheck to pay for social security and medicare. now you've got 18% of households, a much smaller slice of the pie. >> not 46, 47%. >> 18% there. he also talked about entitlement programs. he said in that tape that there are a lot of people who feel as though the government should give them food, housing, all of these other things. >> before you get to those, why are there only 18% of us not paying payroll taxes? because they're not making enough money? >> because it comes right out of your paycheck, right? i mean, most working americans are paying the payroll tax.

if you're not working, then you're not paying them. so if you're elderly or retired, you're not paying payroll tax. >> a lot of people expect the government to look after them. who are they and what exactly is the breakdown of what are we doing for them? >> we know that the great recession has put more people into the safety net. 26% of americans are getting medicaid. >> that's huge. >> right. that's one in four families is receiving medicaid. food stamps, about 47 million. women, infants and children, w ic ic. 8% get that. housing assistance is 4%. there's something called temporary assistance for needy families, 2%. look, these programs have all swollen over the past few years because we had this terrible recession. the question is, progressives say that's a sign of success in an economy that you can take care of your poor people. conservatives are saying hey, wait a minute. we can't afford this forever. what is the exit strategy, or do we become a dependent nation on programs like this?

>> one last question quickly. when mitt romney says i'm not worried so much about dealing with poor people, i'm looking to help the middle class. how much of this is middle class? >> how much of this is middle class? that's an interesting question. medicaid is not middle class. there may technically be middle-class people on food stamps but not very many. these are programs for needy and poor people, quite frankly. when you look at the people who aren't paying federal income taxes, those are by and large the elderly and the working poor. >> that explains it. christine romans, thank you. [ female announcer ] you can make macaroni & cheese

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in our "issues 2012," we turn overseas because there has been moreeadly fallout from that film that insults islam and the prophet mouhameuhammad. a suicide bomber ran into a foreigner's bus in the afghan

cap tall capital of kabul. one of them a translator who was helping them. an insurgent group linked to the taliban says that it carried out the attack, and the reason for it, revenge for the anti-muslim film. and in a somewhat related development, american and other nato troops have now been ordered -- ordered to sharply reduce some of their joint operations with the afghan army and the police forces. you know how we're training them? and this move has been prompted by a wicked spike in deadly attacks by their afghan counterparts. you've heard them, green-on-blue attacks. so how our involvement in this war is ultimately going to play out is going to be determined by who wins the white house in november. your choice. remember? pentagon correspondent chris lawrence now has a look at just where both candidates stands on the longest war in u.s. history. >> reporter: 70,000 american troops are still fighting in afghanistan.

but will election day affect them one way or the other? we see two candidates moving closer and closer to the point where there's not much space between them. >> our goal should be to complete a successful transition to afghan security forces by the end of 2014. >> next year afghans will take the lead for their own security. in 2014, the transition will be complete. >> reporter: there were real differences at the beginning of governor romney's campaign last summer when he seemed to criticize president obama's decision to send 30,000 more troops to afghanistan. >> it's time for us to bring our troops home as soon as we possibly can. i also think we've learned that our troops shouldn't go off and try and fight a war of independence for another nation. >> reporter: but the governor's position evolved. by november he opposed any plan to bring most of the troops home before 2014. >> i stand with the commanders in this regard and have in information that suggests that pulling our troops out faster

than that would do anything but put at great peril the extraordinary sacrifice that's been made. this is not time for america to cut and run. >> reporter: whomever sits in the oval office will have to decide how the u.s. hands over to the afghans, and that's where we see the biggest difference, when it comes to talking with the taliban. >> we're pursuing a negotiated peace. in coordination with the afghan government, my administration has been in direct discussions with the taliban. >> reporter: while president obama makes a distinction between taliban and al qaeda, governor romney says he won't haggle with a group that has killed american troops. >> we don't negotiate with terrorists. i do not negotiate with the taliban. that's something for the afghans to decide how they'regoing to pursue their course in the future. >> reporter: so there's negotiation versus no negotiation with the taliban. president obama announced an end date years in advance. governor romney opposed publicizing that date.

the governor would have kept additional troops there through december. analysts say neither man has spent much time talking about the war, but mark jacobson says that's partly because the big strategic issues like the surge and handover have been pretty much decided. >> what we're looking at now is execution of this strategy. and that doesn't require the same sort of political capital and time from washington, dnc.c that was required two years ago. >> reporter: the two men don't exactly agree on how the fighting affects the nation's finances. >> because after two wars that have cost us thousands of lives and over $1 trillion, it's time to do some nation building right here at home. >> of course, the return of our troops cannot and must not be used as an excuse to hollow out our military through devastating defense budget cuts. >> reporter: so the biggest difference on afghanistan may be

how to spend the money when the war is over. chris lawrence, cnn, washington. >> thank you, chris lawrence, for that. and you heard the president say after two wars and thousands dead, since the start of the war in afghanistan in october of 2001, the count is 1,995 americans who have been killed in that country. the one you plan to take. whoa, check it out. hey baby goat... no that's not yours... [ hikers whispering ] ...that's not yours. [ goat bleats ] na, na, na -- no! [ male announcer ] now you can take a photo right from video, so you'll never miss the perfect shot. [ hikers laughing, commenting ] at&t introduces the htc one x. now $99.99. rethink possible.

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to be the worst for the next 20 years? >> right, ashleigh, it is the worst in the south, in many southern states, especially mississippi. and colorado has the best rate. so let's take a look at those two states, the best and the worst. all right. in 2011, 35% of people in mississippi were obese, and 21% of people in colorado. let's jump forward to this forecast, to this prediction, for 2030. in mississippi, that number goes from 35% to 67%. in colorado, it goes from 21% to 45%. so big jumps -- >> that's almost double! >> big, big jumps. now, i have to say that this is a projection, a forecast, which is always tricky. can't always do those perfectly, but it is a projection based on cdc numbers. >> so, you know, i always watch with interest michelle obama as she gardens in the back and she gets her message out about exercising and eating right, but that's michelle obama. what about the candidates themselves? are they looking at this as

serious as it is? >> right. they both say that they are looking at it. so president obama has already mandated healthier school lunches, and his office says he wants to do even more to make school lunches healthier. of course there's the let's move campaign from his wife. we reached out to the romney campaign because we couldn't find anything on their website about obesity. and the campaign did not get back to us. but we did see that in 2007, romney said yes, we ought to have healthier school lunches, but he was very clear. he said i don't want the federal government to mandate that. i want states and local school systems to do that on their own. >> and then i'm reading in the local paper this morning, and it's all over the wires as well about kids in america eating too much salt. in fact, eating as much salt as we are, grown-ups. >> yes. and we are eating too much salt. so take a look at these numbers, and this kind of spells out the whole thing. when you look at numbers for sodium, kids are consuming 3,400 milligrams a day.

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he wore a bulletproof vest to his proverbial first day on the job, and he's had death threats and verbal attacks ever since. and this is a man of the cloth. father gene robinson was the first openly gay episcopal

bishop to be elected to lead his diocese back in 2003. and since then the issue of gay marriage has gained prominence in the national political debate. >> this is not about tolerated gay and lesbian bisexual and transgender people. this is not about being nice. it's not even about being compassionate. this cup of water is about justice. and we are not yet at a place in this country where we believe the full and equal rights of gay and lesbian people are a matter of justice. we're not there yet. >> he's just out with his brand-new book "god believes in love: straight talk about gay marriage," and father robinson joins me now live. thanks for coming in and talking to me about this. >> i'm delighted to be here. >> i'm delighted to talk to you about this as well. to me as an immigrant in this country, i have looked at this issue of gay marriage, and i have personally seen this as the new civil rights frontier.

there are many people who don't agree that it's a civil rights issue. you have written a book that almost essentially makes the argument that it is a civil rights issue. how can you -- how can it be debated that it is not? >> well, it's hard to imagine because the similarities between this and the civil rights movement of the '60s, for instance, have so much in common. you know, 100 years before that, we were using scripture to justify slavery in the great abolition debate. and today we find people who are using the scriptures which talks about god being love and god loving all of god's children. they're using those scriptures to actually hold it against us. i take so much inspiration from the african-american movement of the '60s. you know, they were so courageous. they went into the streets for their civil rights facing snarling dogs and fire hoses and sometimes death itself. and their courage was astounding. and all they were fighting for,

and all we in the gay community are fighting for -- >> was the right to share a water fountain and everything that goes with it. >> and the question is liberty and justice for all, we throw that out, but really? is it for all? and do we want to live in a country where that's a great slogan but not the truth? >> one of the -- one of the debates that you put forth -- and it's not even really a debate, it's an ideology you put forth that's fascinating in the book. until white people got on board with the civil rights movement and joined black people in the streets calling for it, did it get traction. is that the same issue that you see with the gay marriage movement? until more straight people get on board and demand this, there aren't enough numbers in the gay community to make this happen? >> you know, i think we can't take it away from black people what they did, but when white people began to understand that they were paying a huge price for racism, things really, really took off. and i think, you know, we as gay

people will never be more than a minority. >> when i say traction -- and i certainly don't want to take away as well -- when i say traction, i mean legislation and government traction. >> and the jim crow laws came off the books. >> go ahead. >> and we will be never be more than a small minority. so until heterosexual people understand that living in a country where liberty and justice for all isn't a reality hurts them as well, then we will have trouble making headway. and the fact of the matter is, we are making great headway. we see the numbers changing so fast. and when president obama expressed his support for marriage equality, we saw the numbers in the african-american community skyrocket. and i think he sort of gave them cover for the work that they had been doing all along. >> and he wrote a blurb in support of your book saying essentially do unto others as you would have them do unto you. >> yeah, isn't that the message of scripture that we are to value all of god's children, even god's gay and lesbian, bisexual and transjeopardier childr

transgender children. >> you were married heterosexual four decades, and now you have been in a geaux relationship for 20 -- >> 25 years. >> and married for four. >> correct. >> how were you elected? because if you're talking about a small minority, how does a man like you to be elected bishop of your diocese when there isn't this wholesale support for perhaps your lifestyle? >> sure. i'll tell you, i got elected the same way that attitudes about gay and lesbian people are changing in this country, which is that people get to know us. and i had worked in my diocese for 27 years before i was elected bishop. they knew me. >> you weren't the boogie man in the parade. everybody swinging from chandeliers according to so many people. >> we're not so scary. we just look like the person next door. and what americans all across this country, as their sons and daughters or nieces and nephews or coworkers or former classmates come out to them is

that all of those things that we've been told are wrong about gay people. just aren't true. >> you look awfully nice to me. it's nice to have you come in and share the book and the thoughts, and i appreciate meeting you. zmoo thank y >> thank you so much. >> "love free or die" premieres october 29th at 10:00 p.m. on pbs. back after this. clean makeup won't fake up... won't clog your pores so it lets your skin breathe. it lets you be you! flawlessly. clean makeup. from easy breezy beautiful. covergirl.

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investigators with the u.s. state department are honing in on some brand-new videotape out of benghazi, libya. and it's videotape that shows witnesses -- well, at least witnesses say -- shows ambassador chris stevens being pulled out of a charred window just moments after this attack on the u.s. consulate there last week. here's our arwa damon with that video. >> reporter: this is the first thing that he says he saw and filmed at the consulate compound. the cafeteria building up in

flames. it was shortly before midnight, september 11th. the smoke so thick, the compound's main house is barely visible. and then this. after breaking through a window, men shout they have found a body. suddenly, one of them cries out, "he's alive! he's alive!" the crowd cheers. "god it great!" rushing for a car, they realize it's a foreigner. "i was filming the video, and i thought it was an american, fahed recalls, but i thought it was a driver or a security guy. i never thought it was the ambassador." it's clear from the rest of the video that the man they pulled out was ambassador christopher stevens. fahed says he was alive but barely. "he had a pulse, and his eyes were moving," fahed says.

"his mouth was black from all the smoke." ten minutes later rushed through the benghazi streets in a civilian's car, the ambassador arrived at the hospital, but it was too late. "he got a code blue call. patient arrested, needs resuscitation." >> no pulse or no breathing. >> reporter: he did not realize it was stevens. the body was covered in soot, he says. "i began resuscitation, but after 45 minutes, the patient gave no signs of life." the libyan government has vowed to bring those who attacked the consulate to justice. but nearly a week later, there are still contradictory accounts of what happened. the head of libya's national congress says it was a pre-planned attack. that the government has arrested dozens of people, among them

members or sympathizers of al qaeda and a handful of foreig r foreigners. other senior officials say the 50 were merely brought in for questioning, and there is no evidence of an existing plot. what is undisputed is that over the past three months, attacks against western interests in benghazi have increased, as has the power of extremist groups. something military officials say they warned the americans about. this young man says he arrived at the compound just as the firefight began to subside. he says he didn't see any foreigners, just libyans. members of known extremist militias, bearded, carrying russian-made automatic machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades, and lighter weapons. he was detained by the attackers and says he heard them talking about the assault, celebrating their success, and he says before he was released, they

also talked about an attack on another location that night, a safe house where the american staff took shelter. perhaps we'll never know exactly what happened that night, but it's a far cry from the dreams of so many libyans when they rose up last year. arwa damon, cnn, benghazi, libya. >> arwa, thank you. and meanwhile, the fallout from the online anti-islam film is escalating. al qaeda's affiliate in north africa is now urging muslims in that region to ramp up protests and to, quote, kill their american ambassadors and representatives. the group is also calling ambassador chris stevens' death a, quote, gift. [ female announcer ] ordinary lotions aren't made to treat eczema,

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$700 mark in early trading. alison kosik joins me live from the new york stock exchange. i had a research department pull the ipo price on apple back in 1980. $22 a share. split three times which means $2.75 if you bought it back then. >> incredible, isn't it? it is incredible to see the rise of the share price. trading below that $700 mark. but it did cross that $700 mark. hitting $701. and guess what? here what happe what's driving the shares higher announcement of the iphone 5, pro broke reports on preorders, 2 million put in. the phone hits store shelves friday. it is hard to believe, ashley, six months ago that apple crossed the $600 mark for the first time. you know analysts are saying, wait a minute, caution here, the stock is rising too quickly. it could become overvalued. if you look at it this way, apple stock is trading 16 times

its fiscal 2013 estimates and it's not expensive compared to amazon and facebook. they trade at higher multiples than that. it means apple shares still, believe it or not have room to run. >> could go higher. let's talk about something else going higher, our confidence. apparently in home builders. home builders say they have a six-year high in confidence? >> yeah. this is actually the fifth month in a row that builder confidence improved according to the national association of home builder wells fargo housing mark index. existing home sales, building permits, data, all of that stuff coming out will give us a better picture of mark zandi said the news from the fed to buy mortgage back securities should drive interest rates lower. he says that rates have fallen in response to the fed's actions and expects the fixed rate 30-year mortgage for prime borrower to get as low as 3.25%. also low mortgage rates mean

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to will and kate, the duke and duchess of cambridge, official titles. seen on the final leg of south pacific holiday. it is light-years away from the legal fight over privacy versus papparazzi. back in france, snap happy france, a judge today slapped the magazine called "closer" with a 2,000 euro, under $3,000 american, fine. a fine for publishing the photos of kate sunbathing partially nude in a private villa. and much more importantly it ordered that magazine to surrender the original photos to the royals. digital and all. also barred the publication from showing those in print and online and the bottom line is this, the royals do have privacy rights, just like the average joe. joining me to talk about them is defense attorney, law professor, joe jackson. here's the deal. privacy we all have an expectation of privacy. >> we do. >> not just will and kate, not just of the people of france or italy, we have an expectation

and it's enshrined in our constitution. >> absolutely. what happens is, it says thi there's that famous case that you made me read, right, the decision from 1967, i was having nightmares of law school but it's a reasonable expectation of private sy. we know the constitution, it doesn't protect places, it protects people. anywhere where you believe you have a reasonable expectation of privacy, even if it's in a public place, you do, which is a beautiful thing. guess what? you're in a phone booth you're making a phone call, expectation of privacy but only as it relates to the call, don't try doing anything lewd in the phone booth -- >> it's see-through. >> it's see-through. it's not subject for that. amazing. >> we all, in a bathroom in your home, in the place where you reasonably could expect to be private, you are legally protected. they can't record you, they can't photograph you. you have a case. >> yes. but you have to be careful because there are some instances in your home but the window is ex-poked right and people can see in, be careful. if they peern